1 00:00:05,670 --> 00:00:03,669 flight controllers here in the payload 2 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,680 operations integration center are busy 3 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:07,279 at work this morning they've been 4 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:09,040 working with karen nyberg from the kibo 5 00:00:13,669 --> 00:00:11,599 module discussing melfi operations 6 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:13,679 that's the station's minus 80 degree 7 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:15,759 freezer that's used to store biological 8 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:17,520 samples among other things in the 9 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:20,080 meantime chris cassidy has been having a 10 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:22,640 little fun all in the name of science 11 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:23,760 he's been working with a new 12 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,599 investigation called surface tele 13 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:27,359 robotics that's where he actually gets 14 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:29,519 to control a robot on the ground from 15 00:00:34,630 --> 00:00:31,519 the space station i spoke with the 16 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:34,640 payload developer about these operations 17 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:37,680 what we're looking at is ways for 18 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,840 humans to control robots 19 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:41,760 in you know different situations 20 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:44,800 primarily to to aid in exploration 21 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:47,840 so the other projects within human 22 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:50,160 exploration telerobotics are robonaut 2 23 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:51,199 which i'm sure a lot of people have 24 00:00:54,869 --> 00:00:52,239 heard about 25 00:00:56,549 --> 00:00:54,879 and smartphone spheres which is we've 26 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,559 taken a smartphone and put it on the 27 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:58,960 side of the spheres facility which also 28 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:01,600 very many people are familiar with 29 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:02,399 to 30 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:04,559 basically make it a robot a free-flying 31 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,080 robot they give it a little more 32 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:08,240 computational power and some additional 33 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:10,080 sensors that aren't already on board the 34 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:11,200 spheres 35 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:14,400 surface tele robotics is a 36 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:16,960 what we're trying to do is have crew 37 00:01:22,469 --> 00:01:20,080 onboard space station control a robot on 38 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:22,479 the surface of earth and this is a 39 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:25,119 simulation of different types of 40 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:27,200 missions that you could run 41 00:01:32,069 --> 00:01:30,400 say in orbiting vehicle around mars 42 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:32,079 controlling a robot on the surface of 43 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:34,000 mars or a 44 00:01:39,030 --> 00:01:37,520 crew vehicle at the lunar earth lagrange 45 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:39,040 point on the far side of the moon 46 00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:40,960 controlling a robot on the far side of 47 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:42,960 the moon which we cannot communicate 48 00:01:46,389 --> 00:01:44,399 without orbital 49 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:46,399 assets in place because we have no line 50 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:47,920 of sight 51 00:01:53,510 --> 00:01:50,640 so what we're testing is you know what 52 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:53,520 do we need technology wise in order to 53 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,799 do this sort of mission because we've 54 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:56,640 never done anything like it before and 55 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,200 so we need to understand com issues 56 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,759 usability issues 57 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:03,360 situational awareness so we're looking 58 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:05,119 at our user interfaces you know do they 59 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:06,719 give the crew the information that they 60 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,720 need in order to understand 61 00:02:12,309 --> 00:02:10,800 what the robot's doing what's what's its 62 00:02:14,470 --> 00:02:12,319 uh status 63 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:14,480 and then can they control it 64 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:15,840 so what kind of hardware are we talking 65 00:02:18,229 --> 00:02:16,800 about are we talking about a little 66 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:18,239 robot down here on earth yes we are 67 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,879 we're talking about um a mer sized robot 68 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,800 so those are the the last two rovers 69 00:02:27,030 --> 00:02:24,720 that were on mars the newer robot 70 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,040 curiosity is quite a bit larger 71 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:29,440 so it's about a meter by a meter by a 72 00:02:34,630 --> 00:02:33,200 meter a robot called k10 that we have at 73 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,640 ames research center we've been using 74 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:37,200 for about five or six years now 75 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,200 so we're very experienced using it so we 76 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:41,040 didn't we didn't want to have too many 77 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:43,440 new variables in this experiment we're 78 00:02:49,509 --> 00:02:47,040 running off of our experiences doing 79 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:49,519 analog missions where we've gone out to 80 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:52,160 the arctic and you know california place 81 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:54,080 deserts in california 82 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:56,319 and arizona where we've tested the robot 83 00:03:00,550 --> 00:02:59,040 and done simulated uh science missions 84 00:03:04,149 --> 00:03:00,560 so we want to keep the sort of the 85 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,159 robotic side of this test as you know uh 86 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:06,159 as familiar as possible and really look 87 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:07,840 more at sort of the human factor side 88 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,680 look at the crew 89 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:11,599 interaction with the robot that's really 90 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,000 where our science is in this case uh 91 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,879 robots are fun i mean for everybody uh 92 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:19,120 you know and astronauts have as much fun 93 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:21,280 with it as anybody else so 94 00:03:24,470 --> 00:03:22,720 they're neat because you can sort of 95 00:03:26,149 --> 00:03:24,480 they move around they do things and you 96 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:26,159 can kind of relate to them 97 00:03:29,910 --> 00:03:27,920 how exciting is it for you to see a 98 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:29,920 project come to fruition like this it's 99 00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:31,760 great i you know i haven't had much 100 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:33,680 experience on the on the human space 101 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:36,239 flight side of nasa's house we've mostly 102 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:37,760 worked you play with robots i play with 103 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,159 robots exactly so um you know we've 104 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:41,840 worked sort of with the mars program in 105 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:43,840 the past we've looked at 106 00:03:48,309 --> 00:03:46,640 um we have looked at robots uh to aid 107 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:48,319 human exploration but we haven't 108 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,159 actually flown anything with team of 109 00:03:54,149 --> 00:03:52,400 space flight before so 110 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:54,159 um so even though we're not our 111 00:03:57,429 --> 00:03:56,000 project's not flying any hardware we're 112 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,439 only flying software because we only 113 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:59,519 need to send the gui up to the station 114 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,879 for for the 115 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,400 crew to control the hardware on the 116 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:04,080 ground 117 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:05,519 there's still a lot of things you have 118 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:06,720 to do to make sure that everything's 119 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:10,000 safe surprisingly even with software 120 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:12,400 so for me it's a very new experience and 121 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:14,080 it's really exciting because yeah i can 122 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:16,959 say i've flown something now so 123 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:19,120 i really like it it's fun 124 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:21,440 and for more information on surface tele 125 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:23,840 robotics and other investigations go to